Thanks for the input about the stuff advertised for small carvers. I
got the word that it is too soft.
I understand from Pandy that there is some material the folks up in
Portland are using. This is in addition to the Speedycut Pink and
Master Carve. Any name or source for this?
And who out there uses PZ Cut? What is the verdict for that? What are
the sources?
I went to Home Depot and asked about possible material. They were
puzzled and could not help.
In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
12 inches wide and 18 inches long. A 1/4 inch thickness would be
nice. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me (and us) know.
Thanks in advance,
Sir B
Other Stamp Carving Materials?
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Started on 2003-10-11
Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: Sir Balthazar (neovolatile@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 02:37:37 UTC
Re: Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: dvn2rckr (dvn2rckr@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 02:43:43 UTC
PZ Kut from http://www.stampeaz.com/
Runs about $5 a sheet (twice the size of the pink Speedball stuff
that sells for $9 at Mike's).
I absolutely LOVE this stuff!
I also recommend that you buy at least 4 sheets at a time (the cost
of S&H is the same for 1-4 sheets, I believe).
Enjoy & happy carving!
dvn2r ckr
DuPont, WA
Runs about $5 a sheet (twice the size of the pink Speedball stuff
that sells for $9 at Mike's).
I absolutely LOVE this stuff!
I also recommend that you buy at least 4 sheets at a time (the cost
of S&H is the same for 1-4 sheets, I believe).
Enjoy & happy carving!
dvn2r ckr
DuPont, WA
Re: Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: hoopoe4me (scribenbirder@msn.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 02:48:27 UTC
PZ Kut is here
http://www.stampeaz.com/
I like and use PZ Kut. Firmly holds the gouge but allows easy fine
turns and detail. It is thin and I prefer to back it with a thin
plywood backing lath. I used a soft cover stamp log so know how
frustrating it can be to not have a firm surface to work with.
The Pinkstuff is nice, my first media, but too hard to find.
Slightly softer than PZ I think it holds up well. Again I prefer to
back the media for better stamping.
Master Carve far too soft for my liking. My signature stamp started
crumbling before 100 stamps (when I change the image) Fine detail
will flatten out if you press too hard. It was so thick that I
carved two images on one block and did not need a backing. I feel I
was paying a lot for media (thickness ) that I was not using.
Hoopoe
Redmond WA
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Sir Balthazar"
wrote:
> Thanks for the input about the stuff advertised for small carvers.
I
> got the word that it is too soft.
>
> I understand from Pandy that there is some material the folks up in
> Portland are using. This is in addition to the Speedycut Pink and
> Master Carve. Any name or source for this?
>
> And who out there uses PZ Cut? What is the verdict for that? What
are
> the sources?
>
> I went to Home Depot and asked about possible material. They were
> puzzled and could not help.
>
> In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
> 12 inches wide and 18 inches long. A 1/4 inch thickness would be
> nice. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me (and us) know.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sir B
http://www.stampeaz.com/
I like and use PZ Kut. Firmly holds the gouge but allows easy fine
turns and detail. It is thin and I prefer to back it with a thin
plywood backing lath. I used a soft cover stamp log so know how
frustrating it can be to not have a firm surface to work with.
The Pinkstuff is nice, my first media, but too hard to find.
Slightly softer than PZ I think it holds up well. Again I prefer to
back the media for better stamping.
Master Carve far too soft for my liking. My signature stamp started
crumbling before 100 stamps (when I change the image) Fine detail
will flatten out if you press too hard. It was so thick that I
carved two images on one block and did not need a backing. I feel I
was paying a lot for media (thickness ) that I was not using.
Hoopoe
Redmond WA
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Sir Balthazar"
> Thanks for the input about the stuff advertised for small carvers.
I
> got the word that it is too soft.
>
> I understand from Pandy that there is some material the folks up in
> Portland are using. This is in addition to the Speedycut Pink and
> Master Carve. Any name or source for this?
>
> And who out there uses PZ Cut? What is the verdict for that? What
are
> the sources?
>
> I went to Home Depot and asked about possible material. They were
> puzzled and could not help.
>
> In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
> 12 inches wide and 18 inches long. A 1/4 inch thickness would be
> nice. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me (and us) know.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sir B
Re: [LbNA] Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: Silent Doug (silentdoug@letterboxing.info) |
Date: 2003-10-10 23:06:47 UTC-04:00
Sir Balthazar wrote:
>I went to Home Depot and asked about possible material. They were
>puzzled and could not help.
>
>In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
>12 inches wide and 18 inches long. A 1/4 inch thickness would be
>nice. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me (and us) know.
Go back to Home Depot and ask about plumber's gasket. It's made of red
rubber, comes in up to 1/4" thicknesses and costs about $1 per sq.ft. Lots
of rubber stamp carvers use it.
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>I went to Home Depot and asked about possible material. They were
>puzzled and could not help.
>
>In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
>12 inches wide and 18 inches long. A 1/4 inch thickness would be
>nice. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me (and us) know.
Go back to Home Depot and ask about plumber's gasket. It's made of red
rubber, comes in up to 1/4" thicknesses and costs about $1 per sq.ft. Lots
of rubber stamp carvers use it.
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Re: [LbNA] Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: Steve S. (kerjin@myndworx.com) |
Date: 2003-10-10 20:19:29 UTC-07:00
The only thing that matches your requirements is Plumbers Gasket. It's red
and comes in sheets, 1/4 inch thick. I think it'll do what you're looking
for.
Steve of Rayvenhaus
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
The PNWLb Website - http://www.myndworx.com
(Whose sig can be seen at http://www.myndworx.com/rayvenhaus )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sir Balthazar"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:37 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Other Stamp Carving Materials?
> Thanks for the input about the stuff advertised for small carvers. I
> got the word that it is too soft.
>
> I understand from Pandy that there is some material the folks up in
> Portland are using. This is in addition to the Speedycut Pink and
> Master Carve. Any name or source for this?
>
> And who out there uses PZ Cut? What is the verdict for that? What are
> the sources?
>
> I went to Home Depot and asked about possible material. They were
> puzzled and could not help.
>
> In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
> 12 inches wide and 18 inches long. A 1/4 inch thickness would be
> nice. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me (and us) know.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sir B
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
and comes in sheets, 1/4 inch thick. I think it'll do what you're looking
for.
Steve of Rayvenhaus
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
The PNWLb Website - http://www.myndworx.com
(Whose sig can be seen at http://www.myndworx.com/rayvenhaus )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sir Balthazar"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:37 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Other Stamp Carving Materials?
> Thanks for the input about the stuff advertised for small carvers. I
> got the word that it is too soft.
>
> I understand from Pandy that there is some material the folks up in
> Portland are using. This is in addition to the Speedycut Pink and
> Master Carve. Any name or source for this?
>
> And who out there uses PZ Cut? What is the verdict for that? What are
> the sources?
>
> I went to Home Depot and asked about possible material. They were
> puzzled and could not help.
>
> In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
> 12 inches wide and 18 inches long. A 1/4 inch thickness would be
> nice. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me (and us) know.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sir B
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
Re: Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 04:59:54 UTC
> In particular I am looking for a sheet of carving material at least
> 12 inches wide and 18 inches long.
I can't believe nobody has asked this yet, but what sort of stamp do
you have in mind, exactly? It'll take one heck of a big box to hide
a stamp THAT large!
-- Ryan
> 12 inches wide and 18 inches long.
I can't believe nobody has asked this yet, but what sort of stamp do
you have in mind, exactly? It'll take one heck of a big box to hide
a stamp THAT large!
-- Ryan
Re: Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: Sir Balthazar (neovolatile@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 05:20:36 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "rscarpen"
wrote:
> I can't believe nobody has asked this yet, but what sort of stamp
do
> you have in mind, exactly? It'll take one heck of a big box to
hide
> a stamp THAT large!
>
> -- Ryan
Besides letterboxing, I play the Middle Eastern drum called the
doumbek for bellydancers. A lady wants to put a henna tattoo on her
back for certain dance occasions. It could be henna or some
waterproof ink. The lady would prefer not to get a real tattoo.
Being a knight in service to the Holy Graal that is embodied in this
lady and others, I have offered to carve the image she wishes.
Aren't you glad you asked?
Sir B
wrote:
> I can't believe nobody has asked this yet, but what sort of stamp
do
> you have in mind, exactly? It'll take one heck of a big box to
hide
> a stamp THAT large!
>
> -- Ryan
Besides letterboxing, I play the Middle Eastern drum called the
doumbek for bellydancers. A lady wants to put a henna tattoo on her
back for certain dance occasions. It could be henna or some
waterproof ink. The lady would prefer not to get a real tattoo.
Being a knight in service to the Holy Graal that is embodied in this
lady and others, I have offered to carve the image she wishes.
Aren't you glad you asked?
Sir B
Re: [LbNA] Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: Tig (mainetig@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 05:43:59 UTC-07:00
At my local Home Depot (RI) I have only plumber's gasket in small
squares that are about 6" x 6". If you go to a plumbing store,or
contractor supply place, however, you can usually buy it by the foot or
pound.
I carved with it when I first started - and I really liked how it
carved. It doesn't, however, always hold ink that well. I was told by
someone to use a fine grit sandpaper over the design afterwards to
roughen the surface and it helped a bit. I also found that pigment
inks seemed to work better than dye ones. You needed to have a good
firm, flat place to stamp and be sure to apply even pressure to the
whole design. Over time, I could also see where this may get brittle
or dry - depeneding on how it is used and how it is stored.
You might want to get a small piece to start and play around with it a
bit to see what you think.
Good Luck!
Tig
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squares that are about 6" x 6". If you go to a plumbing store,or
contractor supply place, however, you can usually buy it by the foot or
pound.
I carved with it when I first started - and I really liked how it
carved. It doesn't, however, always hold ink that well. I was told by
someone to use a fine grit sandpaper over the design afterwards to
roughen the surface and it helped a bit. I also found that pigment
inks seemed to work better than dye ones. You needed to have a good
firm, flat place to stamp and be sure to apply even pressure to the
whole design. Over time, I could also see where this may get brittle
or dry - depeneding on how it is used and how it is stored.
You might want to get a small piece to start and play around with it a
bit to see what you think.
Good Luck!
Tig
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Re: Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: pandora{HIB} (hispandora@phlsystems.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 10:03:57 UTC-07:00
Greetings Everyone -
Sir B - From the picture you posted I would venture to say that the stuff
you found for small artists is in fact the material I was telling you about
yesterday. If so as you know I have had really good experience with it. I
have found that it is a little harder to carve, especially if you are going
to be doing very small detail, however once you get the hang of it the
material is much more realiable. I have also found that because it is
harder, the images stamp much nicer, and there is no need to back the
carving to allow for better stamping. I am really tickled with this stuff
as far as quality and price goes, however I tend to use different materials
based on the stamp. If I were doing ohhh something quick and simple I would
use this stuff, if I was doing something like my Tinkerbell stamp or my
Never Never Land stamp I would stick with speedball.
I have to agree with Hoope in the matter of Master Carve. I really like the
way it carves but I don't feel it stands up to the test in the long run. My
signature stamp, (which I dearly love and was carved for me by Sir B) is
already starting to crumble and that just breaks my heart.
To be really honest I have never carved on the pink stuff as I have heard
terrible things about the way it carves and its wear and tears.
I am very interested in this plumbing gasket material though. I talked to
Iron`Bear about it who is in contruction by trade and is familar with it and
he says that he could see why it would be a good material when you consider
what it is used for and what it is made to weather against. (Everything that
goes through a toliet). I am thinking we might have a real winner here as
far as price and durability.
I guess alot of people are going to disagree with me as to the small artist
carving material, however I would suggest you give it a shot for some less
detailed stamps and see what you come up with, carving may be more of a
challange but the final results are well worth it. For anyone that is
interested and local to Oregon you can check out "My backyard friend" and
"Rose of Chaos" letterboxes to see the final result I ended up with on this
material as well as my upcoming Charlie Brown series.
Last but not least I am growing very tired of the speedball carving set and
was wondering if anyone has any suggestion on other tools? I am really
looking from something with a handle that is bit smaller.
I bid you all well,
pandora{HIB}
Sir B - From the picture you posted I would venture to say that the stuff
you found for small artists is in fact the material I was telling you about
yesterday. If so as you know I have had really good experience with it. I
have found that it is a little harder to carve, especially if you are going
to be doing very small detail, however once you get the hang of it the
material is much more realiable. I have also found that because it is
harder, the images stamp much nicer, and there is no need to back the
carving to allow for better stamping. I am really tickled with this stuff
as far as quality and price goes, however I tend to use different materials
based on the stamp. If I were doing ohhh something quick and simple I would
use this stuff, if I was doing something like my Tinkerbell stamp or my
Never Never Land stamp I would stick with speedball.
I have to agree with Hoope in the matter of Master Carve. I really like the
way it carves but I don't feel it stands up to the test in the long run. My
signature stamp, (which I dearly love and was carved for me by Sir B) is
already starting to crumble and that just breaks my heart.
To be really honest I have never carved on the pink stuff as I have heard
terrible things about the way it carves and its wear and tears.
I am very interested in this plumbing gasket material though. I talked to
Iron`Bear about it who is in contruction by trade and is familar with it and
he says that he could see why it would be a good material when you consider
what it is used for and what it is made to weather against. (Everything that
goes through a toliet). I am thinking we might have a real winner here as
far as price and durability.
I guess alot of people are going to disagree with me as to the small artist
carving material, however I would suggest you give it a shot for some less
detailed stamps and see what you come up with, carving may be more of a
challange but the final results are well worth it. For anyone that is
interested and local to Oregon you can check out "My backyard friend" and
"Rose of Chaos" letterboxes to see the final result I ended up with on this
material as well as my upcoming Charlie Brown series.
Last but not least I am growing very tired of the speedball carving set and
was wondering if anyone has any suggestion on other tools? I am really
looking from something with a handle that is bit smaller.
I bid you all well,
pandora{HIB}
Re: Other Stamp Carving Materials?
From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) |
Date: 2003-10-11 23:57:55 UTC
> To be really honest I have never carved on the pink stuff as I have
> heard terrible things about the way it carves and its wear and
> tears.
Somebody is talking about about the pink stuff?! Who? Let me
at 'em! It's my favorite material--although I'm always up for trying
new carving mediums, although I always find myself ultimately always
going back to the pink stuff.
As for wear and tears, I made my signature stamp with it and after
two years and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of stampings, it's
still looking pretty good! Frankly, it's lasted far longer than I
could have possibily hoped!
Which isn't to say I'd recommend it to everyone. Different people
have different preferences. One person might like a "hard" carving
medium while other prefer a medium that "cuts like hot butter with a
sunburn". Use what you like and tell everyone else to go jump in a
lake. ;o)
-- Ryan
> heard terrible things about the way it carves and its wear and
> tears.
Somebody is talking about about the pink stuff?! Who? Let me
at 'em! It's my favorite material--although I'm always up for trying
new carving mediums, although I always find myself ultimately always
going back to the pink stuff.
As for wear and tears, I made my signature stamp with it and after
two years and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of stampings, it's
still looking pretty good! Frankly, it's lasted far longer than I
could have possibily hoped!
Which isn't to say I'd recommend it to everyone. Different people
have different preferences. One person might like a "hard" carving
medium while other prefer a medium that "cuts like hot butter with a
sunburn". Use what you like and tell everyone else to go jump in a
lake. ;o)
-- Ryan